11: Sean Douglas: Suicide, Resilience, & Respect

Suicide, resilience, and respect. Sean Douglas shares key skills and strategies for helping individuals as host Mike Domitrz discusses the work Sean does and Sean’s personal journey with the military.

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BIO of Sean Douglas:
Sean Douglas is a U.S. Air Force Veteran, TEDx Speaker, Master Resilience Implementer, Suicide Awareness Trainer, Performance Enhancement Expert, International Radio Show Host, and Author. His WHY is he’s a suicide survivor who hit rock bottom with no purpose or passion. He believes that you were created for a purpose, and once you unlock your true potential, you will elevate your life, which is why he founded The Success Corps. In a highly interactive and engaging environment, utilizing online mentoring sessions and face to face workshops, Sean offers Life Transformation skills and Business Strategies to Millennials up to 50-year-old Professionals, Military Veterans, emerging Speakers and Entrepreneurs that will unlock their true potential and elevate them to new heights in their personal and professional lives. Sean equips people with the tools necessary to live EPIC lives, and leaves people better equipped to manage change effectively.

Considered an “Icon of Influence in the New Media Space”, Sean hosts the popular live online radio show, Life Transformation Radio, heard in over 58 countries and thousands of weekly listeners.
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Mike:                       Welcome to The RESPECT Podcast. I’m your host, Mike Domitrz from mikespeaks.com, where we help organizations of all sizes, educational institutions, and the U.S. Military create a culture of respect. And respect is exactly what we discuss on this show, so let’s get started.

Mike:                       Today we are welcoming a very cool special guest doing amazing work out there. That is Sean Douglas. Now, if you’ve never met Sean, Sean is a U.S. Air Force veteran, TEDx speaker, master resilience implementer, suicide awareness trainer, performance enhance expert, and international radio show host and author. His show is called, Life Transformation Radio. And we’re going to get right into this.

Mike:                       Sean, we wanted to have you on because as you know, this is The RESPECT Podcast, and a lot of your work relates to that, particularly we want to talk about suicide and resilience today. To get started, particularly with that discussion, I think it’s really important people hear your story from you, instead of me. So if you could give people a little background, that would be wonderful.

Sean:                       Yeah, absolutely, man. My background comes from growing up in Detroit, and Detroit I don’t think ever has ever really been that nice of a place. But my mom and dad divorced when my dad went into the Air Force when I was in 1st grade, and from 2nd grade on to 7th grade, I grew up in an alcohol dominated domestic violence household. My stepdad was abusive towards my mom, my oldest sister, to me. The physical, emotional, and mental abuse, it takes a toll on you. It really takes a toll on you.

Sean:                       So by the time I was in 7th grade, my mom had had enough, he had gone to jail so many times, the family came and got us. You know, we stayed in my grandparents basement for like two years, till I was a freshman in high school. Went through freshman in high school, and then started fighting and getting in trouble, and doing a bunch of stupid stuff, and was in therapy.

Sean:                       And then we moved, and finished up 10th, 11th, and 12th grade year, I was still getting suspended, started experimenting … started doing other things that just … because I didn’t care. I had no purpose, I didn’t have any drive, I didn’t have any ambition. Half my family was like, “Oh, poor you guys.” The other half was like, “You’ve got to live an amazing life. You have an opportunity.” Like they were the empowerment people.

Sean:                       By the time that I was 18, I had lived in 11 different houses and attended eight different schools. It was insane. That prepared me for the military.

Mike:                       Right, right.

Sean:                       It prepared me for the military. So, at the time, I was like, “My life sucks. I don’t have any friends. Why am I going to make friends, I’m just going to move in a year or two.” You know. My 3rd grade year, I went to two different schools my 3rd grade year. This is what happens. So I joined the military, and then I found alcohol. And because the drinking age in England is 18, and I’m stationed in England, my first duty station, I was drunk all the time. I didn’t have to feel anything, I didn’t have to do anything. But I was the type of drunk where I was good for a while, and then all of this stuff came up. You know, and all the feelings came up, which made me want to drink more, which drove me deeper.

Sean:                       It was ugly. I was cool for a while, and then it would just take a sour turn. And so, by 2005, I’m in an alcohol and drug abuse prevention program with the military. By 2007, my house burned down. And I did what everybody does whenever you go through a traumatic experience, you get married. And so I got married in 2007 after my house had burned down, and then in 2008 we got divorced. Then I decided that you know what, I’m never going to amount to anything, I’m never going to be anywhere, so I decided to take my life, and I tried to do that.

Sean:                       It wasn’t successful. People grabbed me, stopped me, took me to the hospital. You know, they saved me, brought me back, and through chaplains and again, alcohol and drug abuse classes and all that stuff, and people actually taking the time to give value into my life. I then became a drill instructor for the military, because I had overcame all this stuff. And that propelled me into speaking and training, which then propelled me into being a resilience trainer, which then I said, “This is amazing stuff, and it’s changing my life. I bet other people can get their lives changed.”

Sean:                       So I hit the ground running and now … I look back 10 years ago, 10 years ago me and my wife were fighting, arguing, I’m drunk all the time, I’m getting yelled at by my boss. I mean, it’s ugly. And 10 years later, you know, I have a show about transformation, I’m a master resilience implementer for the military, and I do a lot of work with USO, veterans, and … love what I do, man.

Mike:                       Well, you can see that passion in you. And I think what’s powerful about your story Sean, is you served in the military, I get to work with the military a lot. I don’t think people realize how much support systems there are there for people who are struggling. I think people have this perception that our military leaves people abandoned in these moments. Or just kicks them out in [inaudible 00:05:14].

Mike:                       And I think there were times in the past history, we had a recent guest on that that was true of, with the topic of sexual assault in his … and it was aways back, but we’re in a different place today. Mental health is a priority in the U.S. Military, and supporting. And your story really highlights that because they didn’t give up on you in even multiple situations where there could have been opportunity to say, “You’re out and we’re not getting you help.” They kept getting you help.

Sean:                       Yeah, yeah. I think that you bring up a very good point. I do want to say that in the military, just like there are in any area of life, any job, some people just kind of fall through the cracks because of a crap supervisor, somebody’s like, “You know what, I don’t want to deal with this guy anymore. I’m out.” You know? There’s times where people mess things up, like on the job, and you’re like, “Okay, you’re getting reprimanded. Oh look, he did it again. We’re taking a stripe now. Oh, we’re taking some rank, we’re taking some pay. You know what, you’re so messed up, you know what, you’re out. Bye. You suck at this thing. You’ve got to go.” Right?

Sean:                       But in my case, they were like, “He’s a good worker. He’s struggling with addiction. He’s struggling with this stuff,” you know? So they had a chance to get me out but they didn’t, and I’m thankful for that. I know guys that have served in the military who went into it with a heroin addiction, and they kicked them guys out of the military, but entered them into a rehab program on the way out the door. You know what I’m saying?

Sean:                       The veterans, I can’t speak on the actual veterans who are in the VA system, they’ve been there for years, because I’m not in that system right now. Do they get left behind? I can’t really speak to that. Everybody wants to think that they do. But I will tell you that you’re 1000% correct. There are tons of programs out there. The problem is, pride gets in the way and people just don’t want to take advantage of them. I mean, really if you think about it, you know, there are a lot of things like, “Well, I don’t want to … I’m okay, I’m okay.” And they just want to do it on their own. And sometimes you just can’t do it on your own.

Mike:                       No, absolutely. So I think it’s great that you pointed out that for you, you had those resources. Somebody didn’t give up on you. They kept trying.

Sean:                       Right.

Mike:                       What was the turning point for you? Because you mentioned, you were taking those classes, you’re going in those programs and going right back in and right back in, and anybody who has family or friends who have struggled with addiction have seen the roller coaster, right? If they haven’t experienced themselves, they’ve seen the roller coaster. What was that point that made you go, “Oh my gosh.” What point when you attempted suicide was the turning point of, “What have I just done?”

Sean:                       I was in the depths of the hell that I created. Like when I really look back on it, I created all of the destructive behaviors, and self-defeating behaviors, like that was me. It was me just, “I don’t want to deal with it.” Because my whole life, that’s what was modeled for me. My mom didn’t want to talk about the abuse, my sister didn’t want to talk about the abuse, and she had issues early on, marriage and things like that. But I think what was a tipping point was that I got to the lowest … like I hit rock bottom so hard that I bounced off the rock. You know what I mean?

Sean:                       And so, in that moment … and as a suicide awareness trainer, we preach all the time, “There’s a suicide hotline. There’s this. There’s this.” And I teach awareness where, if this person’s exhibiting this, if this person’s exhibiting this, ask them about it, care about them, and escort them somewhere. Escort them to a chaplain, to the hospital, to whatever. Don’t leave them alone.” You know?

Sean:                       And what I have found, even in my own suicide attempt, was that I masked all my pain and I really didn’t want people to know about it. Not because I was embarrassed, I just didn’t want to deal with it. Because when you deal with it, then it kind of becomes real.

Mike:                       Yeah, Brene Brown talks about that, right? What’s in the dark can thrive in the dark. When it comes to the light, we can address it and move forward.

Sean:                       Right. And sometimes, I’ve met people that are like, “No, this is where I want to be.” I’m like, “You want to live like, what?” And they’re like, “This is what I want to do.” I’m like, “This is … like how would you want to live at a low level?” You know what I mean? But that’s what their comfort level’s at. That’s what they know. That’s what’s been modeled. They’re never shown anything different, you know?

Mike:                       Yeah.

Sean:                       So, the tipping point came when I was saved and I was getting some counseling and some other things like, “Well, do you have goals? Do you have dreams?” And I’m like, “Yeah, but they’ll never happen.” Like, I was such in a negative mindset, and somebody gave me a book by Norman Vincent Peale, called The Power of Positive Thinking. And I read that book, and it was like, “Ding!” Like, “There’s something to this. I like this.” And so I started getting into personal development, professional development.

Sean:                       And then when I became a drill instructor, you’re forced to operate at a high level. And my accountability partners that I had pushed me when I didn’t want to be pushed, you know, when I wanted to give up. And so, between the literature and the accountability, and you know, having a brotherhood next to you, you can’t fail.

Mike:                       Great example of teamwork, right? Really being present for each other, and challenging each other. And so at what point did you step out of the military?

Sean:                       I’m currently serving still.

Mike:                       You are, okay. Because I’m here-

Sean:                       Yup, three more years.

Mike:                       All right. So I think a lot of people were confused because we said … in your bio and all, it says Air Force veteran. And that’s where I got confused because I thought, “Well, wait, I thought Sean’s still in.” So I appreciate you clarifying that, thanks.

Sean:                       Yeah, yeah, yeah. I go back and forth on that because some people are like, “Well, let’s put veteran because you can’t represent the Air Force.” I’m like, “Well, I’m not representing the Air Force.” They’re like, “Well, it can be conveyed.” So [crosstalk 00:10:55].

Mike:                       So the Air Force prefers you say veteran so that it’s not implying you are right now representing yourself as part of the U.S. Air Force.

Sean:                       Yes, correct.

Mike:                       And for anybody who’s …

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Mike:                       Representing yourself as part of the US Air Force?

Sean:                       Yes. Correct.

Mike:                       Yeah. For anybody who’s listening or watching, that is true across the board in the military. For instance, you’re a speaker, I’m a speaker. No one in leadership can give me an endorsement anywhere in the US military because doing so says the US government endorsing me, and that’s a commercial endorsement. For those listeners that might remember, that a couple of years ago the Drumpf family, one of them referenced their own products, and that was a trouble issue because the government cannot endorse a commercial product. It’s the same for us, and speakers have made that mistake. You can’t do it.

Mike:                       I get why they do that. It’s just a side note for our listeners, and why we can see that.

Sean:                       Yeah.

Mike:                       What do you think is key for somebody who’s in that struggling space, and you see that somebody is in that struggle space? What’s the best you could do for someone?

Sean:                       Be there for them, and show up with empathy. Emotional intelligence goes a long way, and if you don’t know what the EQ, EQI, they talk about emotional intelligence. What it is, literally in its simplest form is showing up with empathy, not sympathy. It’s like, “It’s going to be okay!” But they don’t believe it’s going to be okay. Telling them that is just going to piss them off.

Sean:                       If you show up, you go, “You know what? My grandmother died about a month or two ago.” Something like that. A month or two ago. “And it was tough. When we were going through all that stuff, that’s the one person I could just … She could hold me, and I can be in her arms, and I knew that I was safe.” You know what I mean?

Mike:                       Yeah.

Sean:                       When she passed away, I felt like my childhood died with her because all of my summers, they have a 10 acre farm, we were out there snapping beans, picking corn, I’m driving the tractor with my grandfather, hammering nails. He had chickens, and horses. This was where I felt the safest. When she died, I felt like my childhood died. Then somebody tells me, “It’s going to be okay!” I’m like, “Dude. I know. I know that. But I’m mourning.” You know what I mean?

Sean:                       If somebody comes to you, and says, “I just recently lost my grandfather,” or my grandmother an aunt or, “Hey, my mom just died too.” Because I had a friend that their parent just passed away, and I was like, “Man. It sucks.” And you connect. You connect, and you’re like, “Man. It just sucks.” You’re like, “You know what? If you live in the memories,” and you’re like, “Yeah, that’s true.” And you can connect that way, you’re going to get farther.

Mike:                       Absolutely true. We teach audiences all the time. One of the worst things you could say to somebody, and I used to make the mistake because I’m known as this high energy, positive person. I would be like, “Oh it would be all right.” Then I learned a few years back. I should have applied what I knew for survivors, because I know for survivors I knew not to do that. But I did it in other realms, and you realize that’s not connection. That’s cheerleading when somebody does not need cheerleading.

Sean:                       Yes.

Mike:                       And there’s a huge different when you need it, and when you don’t need it. One thing that we teach people to do all the time is when somebody shares something like that with you, “Hey, I lost my grandma.” Wow. Thank you for sharing. Right there, we’re like, “Okay. I’m glad you’re able to share that with me,” and instead of, “I’m sorry,” which is what people tend to do, “Oh I’m so sorry.”

Sean:                       You’re like, “Oh sorry about your loss.”

Mike:                       Yeah. What do I do with that except tell you, “It’s going to be okay.” You put it on me now to make you feel better because you seem more distraught. It’s a weird thing when people do that, and I know it’s what everybody teaches, but I think what you just said is so important. “That sucks.” That’s a connection point. “That sucks.” Or, “I really lost my grandpa.” Or, “How are you feeling?” That’s sincere.

Sean:                       Yes.

Mike:                       “How are you feeling?”

Sean:                       “How are you feeling?”

Mike:                       Right?

Sean:                       “I’m not feeling great. I’m not feeling …” and if they hit you with, “It’s going to be better,” like, “You had me.”

Mike:                       Right.

Sean:                       Exactly. I think it’s a great point.

Mike:                       Yeah because even “that sucks” can work, but it can also be wrong. There will be people like, “You know what? Nope. They’re in a better place. It doesn’t suck.” Versus when we start with … There are people that have that experience. They watch somebody in pain for a long time.

Sean:                       Cancer.

Mike:                       Right. When they say, “I lost my grandmother,” and you say, “Wow. Thank you for sharing. How are you feeling?” That allows them to say, “It sucks.” And you’re going to be like, “I can only imagine.” Because you can’t say, “Oh, I know what you’re going through.” Everybody is different. But, “I can only imagine.” Or, “I know it sucked when I’ve lost someone,” without co-opting their story obviously. You don’t want to make it about you. Yeah. I think this is all important.

Mike:                       What about when you are the person? You said, “Hey, people are trying to help me.” And for you, it’s being given that book. What do you think is key that when you are the person? If they’re listening right now, they could help them.

Sean:                       I’m the person that needs help? Or I’m the one that’s … Okay.

Mike:                       Yes. Or I’m the one that’s struggling. I’m in a dark place.

Sean:                       I’m the one struggling? Yes.

Mike:                       I’m contemplating making a very bad choice here.

Sean:                       Yeah. I reference that sometimes, and I really try not to live in the past, but I think that a lot of our learning, and our growth comes from those things that we’ve overcome. My mindset was just, “Everything sucks. I always mess things up.” When somebody says two toxic things. I call it the toxic two. They always say, “I never can do anything right. I always mess things up.” And they’re self-sabotaging or self-defecating or they’re self-harming, whatever.

Sean:                       Like, “I’m so stupid. I always mess things up. I can never do anything right. My life always sucks.” When they start blaming themselves, and using that all-or-nothing mentality, that is a recipe for disaster. If you ever hear somebody saying that, you got to cut them off. Like I said, you have to get with the mindset that they’re in right now. They don’t believe in themselves. They don’t think that there’s anything else on the other side. They’ve hit the wall. They’re in the depths. They’re down in the well.

Mike:                       At that point when they’re, “Hey, my life sucks. Everything always bombs.” And you don’t want to play the, “It’ll be better,” because that’s not going to help. Is that a point of, “Okay. What are you feeling right now that you’re saying that?” Is that where you step in there and go, “What are you feeling?” Then I can address the feelings. “I just bombed this project.” Okay. That’s a project. Is that where you do put something positive? “But also just had this success a week ago. You had four days of work where you got everything done today, and you had a fifth day that you didn’t get it done.” Is it that kind of approach?

Sean:                       Yeah. My approach is that when somebody says that type of thing like, “This sucks.” They’re always, “I’m just going to quit. This is stupid.” What makes you say that? What evidence do you have? Why do you feel that way? They’ll tell me, “I always mess this up. I mess up relationships. I mess up whatever.” I was like, “What’s one of the good things that’s happened during this process? “Yeah, you lost your job. You got fired. Yeah, you lost your grandmother. Yeah, whatever.”

Sean:                       “What’s positive?” “Nothing.” “Come on man, there’s got to be something positive. Did you love the job?” You just help him along. “Did you love the job?” “No, not really.” “Then you’re free of stress. You can do anything you want.” And you just start adding more positives.

Sean:                       Science has proven that gratitude lowers the risk of depression, anxiety, and stress. If you’re a super anxious person, super depressed, count three blessings a day, and it can be something simple as, “I am breathing.” “You are. That’s right. You are breathing.” “I’m alive.” “You are. You are alive. If you’re alive, then you have purpose.” “I don’t feel like I have purpose.” “Why don’t you think you have purpose?” You start to be coach, and a friend, but you’re using gratitude as the foundation to build them up. Once you can count three blessings a day, they start steamrolling, and once you start doing that for about 40, 50 days into 60, 70 days it starts to become a habit, and you start to train your mind to rewire your brain’s nervous structure, and find the positives.

Sean:                       It’s proven. Science proves that you can actually rewire your brain’s nervous system, your nervous structure to actually frame your mind in a certain way, and only look through that lens. Where focus goes, energy flows. Focus on the positives, energy becomes positive. You focus on the negatives, you’ll only see the negatives.

Mike:                       I love it. Sean, we’re all about respect. How do you feel respect plays a role here or the person fails to understand, and respect in this process?

Sean:                       Having respect for the relationship, it literally means that having respect for the relationship. When I tell people that you need to have respect for the relationship, I don’t care what my four year old says half the time because it’s mostly gibberish. But having respect for that relationship means, “Oh that’s great honey. That’s amazing. Wow.” You know what I mean? It’s showing empathy. It’s showing that you care. It’s living through your actions. Having respect for somebody means that you come from a serving heart, not a self-serving heart.

Sean:                       Every conversation doesn’t have to be, “What are you going to do for me?” It doesn’t have to be every basis of conversation. But having respect for the relationship shows that you care, you have your empathy, and more over that you actually show through your actions these things that we’re talking about.

Mike:                       I think what you say there is so important because respect and relationship also goes to yourself.

Sean:                       Yeah. Self-love is huge.

Mike:                       Yeah. Do you have empathy for yourself? A lot of what we’re discussing is a period of empathy for myself. Pity is not empathy.

Sean:                       Right.

Mike:                       There can be a lot of self-pity, but not empathy. It’s why I tell people, “Please don’t say to people, “I’m so sorry.” It comes off as pity.” Empathy is, “Thank you for sharing. How are you feeling?” Then they say, “That sucks.” Yeah that does suck. That’s empathy. Pity is, “Oh. I’m so sorry.”

Sean:                       Right.

Mike:                       Or this thing, “That must suck. Your life sucks.” That thing. That’s pity, and we do it to ourselves a lot of times especially when someone is in a dark place. They give a great deal of self-pity, but not self-empathy. Exactly. Yeah man. Everything starts with self-love. During my TED talk, talked about how you can’t fix what’s going on around you until you fix what’s going on inside you. You got to fix your heart, you got to fix your mind. When you can think, feel, and believe in the way that best suits you for success, for positivity, then you can start helping other people around you.

Mike:                       But a lot of times, we don’t fix ourselves. I hear it all the time with coaches, and mentors, and stuff like, “I’m so good at coaching this person, but man I suck at this.”

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Sean:                       But man, I suck at this. Why is it so hard to coach you? Because you don’t see it. I’m like, “Well, take a 10,000 foot view and ask the same questions to yourself that you would ask your coach, your mentees, your whatever.” It has to start with you, man. You have to master … self mastery has to come first before you can start to master other people. That sounds bad, but-

Mike:                       No, I understand. Helping others. Supporting others.

Sean:                       Yeah, yeah yeah, helping others. Master your profession, how about that?

Mike:                       Yeah. In your life, who do you think helped instill respect in you?

Sean:                       Oh man, that was my grandmother and my grandfather 100%. 100%. Both actually, I think both my grandparents, but just thinking right off the top of my head as soon as you said, who … it was like, my grandmother and my grandfather.

Sean:                       I remember my grandfather would always tell me, he’s like, “Boy, I tell you what.” Every time he’d just shake his head. I’d say something stupid or we’d be out somewhere at a flea market somewhere. That was his thing, go to flea markets. I’d say something stupid or do something stupid or make somebody mad and he goes, “Boy, I tell you what,” and he would just shake his head. I knew I had messed up. I knew I had disappointed. He would come across as, here’s what needs to happen, and he would deliver this life lesson. I would like, “Okay, Papa. Okay.” He’s like, “No, no really.” That’s what he did and it really meant a lot.

Sean:                       My grandmother, she’s like, “You know I love you, right? You know you’re loved, you know that people are here for you. Do you know this?” I’m like, “Yeah, yeah.” “No, do you know.” She always wanted to make sure. Between both sets of grandparents, they had their way of … I think that’s kind of a prerequisite for grandparents. They’re not yelling, screaming, carrying on like your parents. They’re the calm, rational ones like up on mountain high with this life lesson that’s going to change your life.

Mike:                       That is great stories. I love hearing that. You’re right, a lot of people, it can be a grandparent. Especially like you, you’re very open about, I didn’t have a great childhood. To have the grandparents be the voice is, I had a voice. Some people don’t have either. You did have that, which is wonderful. What are you think mistakes people make when talking about suicide? It is in the news more. We’re hearing sadly more and more celebrity cases, so that keeps it in the news. It’s unfortunate that it takes celebrity cases to put it in the news. Day to day cases don’t do the same. What do think are mistakes when you hear people reacting to those cases, like on the general society?

Sean:                       Just really what I’m thinking right now is that for the past three days I haven’t heard Kate Spade’s name. It’s a huge thing, for the first three days it’s a huge news story and then it’s gone and that’s it. It’s cool for a little bit, and I just, I’m like, “Come on. How do we keep it top of mind? How do we frame this in a way that really sets the standard to where we need to be looking out for this stuff?” I don’t really have the answer to that. The only thing I can say is it has to be personal. Somehow it has to be personal, like out of darkness walks USO, Red Cross, Veterans … across the board veterans and civilians. There has to be some kind of like monthly awareness or there has to be-

Mike:                       There were public service announcements on TV.

Sean:                       More public service announcements. Something. Instead of having a commercial for freaking Doritos, why don’t we have a commercial for suicide. You see, “Pay me 99 cents a month to foster this child in like, Uganda,” or something. You see all that stuff and you see like, “This pet was left outside.” You see that. Why are we not highlighting human abuse? Why don’t we have a 30 second commercial about human trafficking? Why don’t we have a 30 second commercial about alcoholism and addiction and suicide because it’s just taboo. It’s not a hot topic. It’s something that we don’t talk about at parties.

Mike:                       You get all that in the military network. For those who are not aware, the military TV stations and the network the military puts out.

Sean:                       AFN, yep.

Mike:                       AFN, that’s correct.

Sean:                       All the time.

Mike:                       There’s no commercials. What they do to fill in commercials is public service announcements. You have so much on mental health and sexual violence, but it’s really neat because if you’re watching TV, you know your resources. There’s no way you don’t know your resources. That’s a really positive part of that.

Mike:                       Sean, what do think is a book that was life defining for you?

Sean:                       Oh my gosh.

Mike:                       You already named Vincent Peale’s Power of Positive Thinking. What would be a second one, in addition to that one, that you would recommend?

Sean:                       Gosh. I’ve read so many mind blowing books. I don’t want to give the Think and Grow Rich and 4-Hour Work Week, I want to … what is one that really-

Sean:                       I would say, the one that I absolutely loved is the 21 Laws of Leadership by John Maxwell. As a military dude, as a leader, that’s gold. Oh man, that’s gold. As a personal development, like a relationship, like a whatever book, I would have to say recently the one that comes to mind is the Miracle Morning.

Mike:                       Oh yes, I love that book. Yes.

Sean:                       I love that book. Oh my gosh. Just reading it, you’re like, how do I not know this? You know what I mean? How do I … there’s a lot of business books that I was like, oh my gosh, but like life changing books, the ones that I just could not put down, Miracle Morning, by far.

Mike:                       For anyone who’s listening or watching, there’s a great acronym in there that you can start your day with. Savers. S-A-V-E-R-S.

Sean:                       Savers.

Mike:                       But I’m going to make you get the book, if you’re listening, because we’re not going to cheat that way.

Sean:                       It’s amazing.

Mike:                       It’s so cool and so powerful. You have a website called TheSuccessCorps.com, as in military corp, so it’s The Success C-O-R-P-S .com. Can you tell everybody what that is.

Sean:                       Yeah. The Success Core in the next ten years is going to be the premier entrepreneurship speaker, trainer, podcaster, business owner academy. It’s going to be bigger than Zig Zigler, bigger than John Maxwell, bigger than Brendan Burchard. I’m putting it on here right now, you’re listening to it here first and 2018, ten years from now, you’re going to see The Success Corps everywhere. You want to be a podcaster, you come learn from us. You want to be an entrepreneur, speaker, business owner, you come learn from us.

Sean:                       What it is, is you learn the ins and outs, because everybody says get a mentor, get a … but you can’t afford a mentor or whatever. Okay, well this is totally affordable. I have coaches form everywhere, mentors from everywhere and so if you want to be one of those things, you have to join The Success Corps. We’ve unlock your true potential in elevating your life by digging deep into why it is you want to do. We highlight the why. We then go into those transformational moments that you’ve had in life that are putting you on this path now and then we unlock five areas. We unlock wealth and finances, health, personal relationship and development, professional development, like your business, and then spirituality, which has nothing to do with religion. Has everything to do with the fact that we’re going to strengthen a set of beliefs, principles and values that you already have. Once you unlock those five areas of life that we all have in common, you can then elevate to the next level.

Mike:                       Love it. Thank you so much for joining us Sean, you’ve been fantastic.

Sean:                       You as well. You should be a podcast host, you’ve done well.

Mike:                       Well, thank you.

Sean:                       And a speaker, I’m sure you’d be great.

Mike:                       I’ll give it a shot. Thanks Sean.

Mike:                       Thank you for joining us for this episode of the Respect Podcast, which was sponsored by the Date Safe Project at DateSafeProject.org. Remember, you can always find me at MikeSpeaks.com.

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